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 02-17-2005, 16:26 Post: 106303
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That definitley sucks. I was in a situation like that one time in my life and it was definitely terrifying. I had a swat M16 pointed at my head. They were performing a drug raid on the entire block I lived on (was a pretty bad neighborhood), and it turned out that the people who rented the front unit (I was in the rear unit), were dealing drugs, and two cops were arguing over whether to shoot me or not. The one cop that wanted to shoot me, pulled a baggie full of drugs out of his pocket and threw it on my kitchen sink, and then said to me "see how easy it is?"

I found out later that that particular PD had a brutality problem. I moved to another city, and 20 years later I still avoid that neighborhood like the plague.

There are some retired cops that frequent this site. Surely they can give you some good advice on the matter.

You should not delay in writing 'everything' down as you remember it and have your wife do the same.






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 02-20-2005, 23:15 Post: 106523
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Since I told a bad experience story about cops, it's only fair I also tell my good experience story with cops.. Trouble is, I didn't realize it was a good experience at the time.

I was in the marines, home on leave, and driving my pickup truck through Palos Verdes, Ca. at about 3am, highly intoxicated. This was 25 plus years ago and attitudes have changed considerably towards drunk driving since. But as I passed the police station (drinking makes you smart), I got pulled over. As I was pulled over, I drove up on the curb.

He gave me a sobriety test (have no idea how I did), and it turned out I had a failure to appear traffic warrent. So off to jail I go (about 150 yards away).

Im told that to get out I have to post bail. It's an odd amount (something like $74.86), and I don't have exact change. I'm told they don't have change, and can't accept $80 because that will mess up their books.

Well that pretty well pisses me off (but I keep that to myself). Shift changes, and none of the new cops have change. About 8 hrs later, the janitor comes in, and lo and behold he has exact change to break my 20, and I get to bail myself out.

Well I was pissed about that for years and years, but it was only many years later, that I realized the not having change thing was a ruse, just to keep me in the pokey long enough to sober up.

The guys didn't wnat to bust the marine with DUI, but they weren't about to let me drive anymore. So, they wouldn't let me make change for 8 hrs or so, long enough to sober up.

It sounds like a small thing when I write it down klike this, but it makes me smile everytime I drive past that police station. I'm pretty grateful in hindsight.

Regarding hothead cops, I always thought that 21 was too young to give a guy that much power and responsibility.

I saw a lot of guys (MPs) get just ruined in the marines. You take an 18 year old, give him a ticket book and a gun, and it seems to just jack up the personality of about a third of them.

I always thought that it would be good if the minimum age to become a cop was thirty. By then, they start to mellow and have a bit more perspective and maturity.

It's a highly stressful job, and it changes those who have it. Especially those in high crime areas (like the cops in the first story I told where the cops were arguing whether to shoot me or not).

I wouldn't want the job at all, (unless it was one of those bicycle cops at the beach), but I'm really thankful they exist. In the USA, we have pretty good ones by and large.

I have had several friends and a couple in laws who were cops,. All of them were slightly off (especially the undercover one), but I can defintely understand why.

Their divorce and suicide rate kinda says it all. How do you turn that stuff off when you get home?






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 02-24-2005, 20:55 Post: 106760
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I saw an episode of COPS today where they were doing an undercover sting of male prositutes in west hollywood.


They had an undercover cop in a limo driving around soliciting gay male prositutes. They busted this one guy who had been out of jail for the same crime only one hour (he had been in for 6 months).

They showed part of his trial where a psychiatrist was testifying that the guy was HIV positive and knew it when he was out soliciting. He also testified that the guy had said he didn't care, he hopes everyone gets it.

They said at the end of the show that the guy was charged with felony prostitution and the case was thrown out of court by a federal judge on a technicality.

That is why I couldn't be a cop. I couldn't take doing the same work over and over because someone else kept undoing it.

This guy is out there right now knowingly infecting people with HIV, when everybody knows he's guilty of this crime, but because the cop didn't tie his shoelaces right that morning or something the case gets thrown out of court.

Man, convicting criminals who are caught red handed is almost as hard as getting building permits. Who could put up with that.

God bless you guys for doing that job, but half of the people out there I'd have to deal with as a cop would make me go ballistic. It takes a special person for that job.






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